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No.844 : zoeychan [13/01/07(Mon)16:22] 1357593769701.jpg (61801 B, 309x800) [YIS] [GIS] [SNAP]
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Hey girls,

I've been working on appearing like a girl when I go out with my friends (we go to more TG-safe places for now, like gay bars), but I still feel like I'm obvious. I'm not sure if it's just the fact that I instinctively know what I look like therefore I just look like me with make up and girls' clothes on or if I'm missing something. I want to hone in on what I AM missing. I know I don't look as feminine as I can, I think I have a decent canvas to work with (face and bodywise), I just don't know what I'm missing to take it to a really convincing level.

What I do know:
-- Need thinner eyebrows
-- Voice, not deep, but still an instant tell
-- More suitable makeup (my girlfriends are helping me out with this)
-- More work on my eyes, I don't know what though, falsies?

I have more pictures in a thread in /cam/cross-dressing/ for reference.
Any tips? I'd love any advice anyone has, thanks!

No.845 : Anonymous [13/01/08(Tue)02:02] []

Yea you pretty much got it.
Try makeup in order to downplay your cheekbones.
And all over you chin.

The chin is the thing that got me all the time. Just cover it up with some Foundation.

Another tip is to just go crazy with the makeup and then removing what is clearly not needed. That way it's safer to go out, and you learn more about how to use makeup :D

No.859 : Tess V [13/01/18(Fri)23:43] 1358570637379.jpg (96731 B, 717x942) [YIS] [GIS] []
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Yeah, so this is exactly what I'm dealing with. Voice is hard and warrants it's own consideration, but I really feel like all I need to get right is to get my eyebrows done, and figure out what to do about hiding the facial hair.

And I figure I'm probably doing a better job than I think, but I still feel like people could see, especially on my upper lip. I just can't seem to cover it, even trying to use a red corrector.

But, the fact that it's only barely visible in a picture taken with an actual camera is probably a good sign (see posted).

No.860 : Tess V [13/01/18(Fri)23:47] []

I really don't think you should worry about your eyes at all though.

Just keep practicing with makeup and see what works. You are lucky you have girlfriends to help you with that though - not that I don't have some girls to help, just none of them really do much with makeup.

What are you using for foundation and powder and everything?

No.862 : zoeychan [13/01/27(Sun)01:07] 1359266844129.jpg (105608 B, 640x480) [YIS] [GIS] []
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Thanks Tess for the advice! I've been thinking about maybe doing a video journal or something to go over it. Especially with me working on my voice as I think I might have something right going here with that.

I'm curious about meds because I want to start them soon, but I have a lot going on right now in my life. I have a fiance, two part-time jobs and 5 graduate level classes! lol

No.864 : zoeychan [13/01/27(Sun)01:19] 1359267575141.jpg (69905 B, 360x480) [YIS] [GIS] []
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Also, I've always had kinda-boobs my whole life as well as a quasi-hourglass body shape (I think the actual term is "spoon", meaning I don't have the bust to be an hourglass body type) and I always felt like me being a boy was "wrong" so I feel like I'm going in the right direction and doing the right thing. I do sometimes worry that my friends that I love will react to me differently as a girl (a la the phrase "girls hate girls"). But at the same time, right now, I have their full support so I guess there's not too much to worry about there. It's still a concern as they're what keeps me through this.

Ahh well it's nice just to talk about it.

No.865 : Tess V [13/01/28(Mon)18:55] 1359417349445.jpg (92075 B, 695x888) [YIS] [GIS] []
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I'm just starting voice training, which is gonna be hard for me (my natural F0 is about 80-100Hz and I have bad range). On the other hand, I'm a linguist specializing in phonetics, so at least I have good control over my resonance (which more or less maps to phonation type).

Also, I'm about to get a real job that pays well, so I'm going to start getting my facial hair removed once I have money coming in.

It's actually kind of funny about female friends, since my closest ones definitely don't tend to have female friends, but we all get along really well. On the other hand, we all have some strongly butch tendencies...

If you want to chat or whatever, email me or look me up on skype!


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