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No.824 : Greenwich Villager [12/12/06(Thu)05:17] 1354789040732.jpg (151175 B, 800x600) [YIS] [GIS] [SNAP]
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I'm curious. Is anyone interested in tranny history?

Stonewall was back in the late 1960s. This was a gay bar in NYC that cops decided to pounce upon. One procedure in the raid was described as follows in Wikipedia:

"Standard procedure was to line up the patrons, check their identification, and have female police officers take customers dressed as women to the bathroom to verify their sex, upon which any men dressed as women would be arrested. Those dressed as women that night refused to go with the officers. Men in line began to refuse to produce their identification. The police decided to take everyone present to the police station, after separating those cross-dressing in a room in the back of the bar. Maria Ritter, who was known as Steve to her family, recalled, "My biggest fear was that I would get arrested. My second biggest fear was that my picture would be in a newspaper or on a television report in my mother's dress!"[54] Both patrons and police recalled that a sense of discomfort spread very quickly, spurred by police who began to assault some of the lesbians by "feeling some of them up inappropriately" while frisking them."

The gay people proceeded to make fun of the police, and then a butch lesbian started resisting arrest several times. A cop supposedly whacked her on the head, whereupon she told the crowd to "do something", so they did something.

Trans activist Sylvia Rivera was there, and it may have been the transgendered people who thought up this little song, sung on a kick line:

"We are the Stonewall girls/ We wear our hair in curls/ We don't wear underwear/ We show our pubic hairs"

One cop said, "Fights erupted with the transvestites, who wouldn't go into the patrol wagon". His recollection was corroborated by another witness across the street who said, "All I could see about who was fighting was that it was transvestites and they were fighting furiously"

So... traps helped start the gay-rights movement... perhaps the gays and lesbians should be thanking the traps... just saying

There was some friction between trans and lesbian activists early on: during the 1973 Stonewall rally when, moments after Barbara Gittings exuberantly praised the diversity of the crowd, feminist activist Jean O'Leary protested what she perceived as the mocking of women by cross-dressers and drag queens in attendance. During a speech by O'Leary, in which she claimed that drag queens made fun of women for entertainment value and profit, Sylvia Rivera and Lee Brewster jumped on the stage and shouted "You go to bars because of what drag queens did for you, and these bitches tell us to quit being ourselves!" Both the drag queens and lesbian feminists in attendance left in disgust.

O'Leary also worked in the early 1970s to exclude trans people from gay rights issues because she felt that rights for trans people would be too difficult to attain. Sylvia Rivera left gay activism in the 1970s to work on issues for transgender people and cross-dressers. The initial disagreements between participants in the movements, however, often evolved after further reflection. O'Leary later regretted her stance against the drag queens attending in 1973: "Looking back, I find this so embarrassing because my views have changed so much since then. I would never pick on a transvestite now." "It was horrible. How could I work to exclude transvestites and at the same time criticize the feminists who were doing their best back in those days to exclude lesbians?"

Yeah, that was pretty stupid.

I wonder if anyone has any interest in history? (Herstory, zirstory, hisherstory, whatever)

No.827 : Anonymous [12/12/09(Sun)19:17] []

One absolutely does have interest, thank you for posting this.

No.838 : Nikki [12/12/30(Sun)03:33] []


No.854 : Anonymous [13/01/15(Tue)00:18] []

The Stonewall Riots are super important to not just T's but the LGBQ folks as well.
I love Christopher St!!! Bongs, leather, bars, what's not to love.


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