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Okay, so... This is one of the few times I've actually made a topic someplace like this and reached out, because responses from boards like these are usually all over the place, but this place seems pretty awesome, and YourTrainer's thread is full of awesome stuff but honestly it's a bit overwhelming.
I guess I'll start from the beginning. I've flirted with the idea of doing the whole MtF hormones and stuff thing since I was in my mid-teens. I just turned 21 and I now know that I DON'T want to go all the way, and that I DON'T identify as female. At this point though, I think that if I could have starter younger, and been gorgeous by now, that's another story. That being said, I still think about changing my body type and stuff a LOT. I want to be a trap. I'm bisexual, heavily into females, but I really really want to have a more feminine body. I'd love to have a better ass, hips, and do something about that godawful body hair. Maybe a little bit more of a feminine face. The picture I posted (Which I drew, by the way... a sort of fantasy.) should give an idea of what I'm after. Yes, it's an exaggerated, Poju-esque fantasy, but there are plenty of guys I've seen online, some who haven't even taken hormones that I would love to look like. I guess what I'm saying is that my expectations aren't quite that high.
So my question is, should I go on hormones? At this age, I don't really know what to expect from the results. I don't want tits, but I can lose them if other results are awesome (even if that means liposuction), and I'm prepared to deal with emotional stuff if it means pursuing what I want. What I am pretty scared of is size loss when it comes to my cock, as well as erectile disfunction, and difficulty ejaculating. Admittedly I don't know much about this, which is why I'm here, but I'm definitely concerned about sexual performance. I'm more concerned about the pleasure factor as opposed to my size and erectile performance staying the same, but I'm still worried about those, too. At my age, with my wants, it sounds like it isn't worth it, right? And I'm pretty confident no doctor will prescribe anything based on my purely-physical desires. Then again I know there are other ways of getting stuff. That being said, I'm not opposed to surgery, other than not being able to afford it. I also have weight to lose, and in the process have been dabbling with some exercise plans to look more feminine, nothing I've really committed to, yet. I take it this is probably my best course of action, though? I'm mostly just here to try and get some concrete answers about the risks involved in going on hormones for me, at my age, especially compared to potential gains.
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Shave with and against the grain of the hair.Use foundation to cover up the follices.If it really concerns you then go for laser hair removal, a few sessions (2-3) should be enough to reduce the follicle size and, thus, thickness of hair.
>>955you can use laser to reduce your facial hair by a lot, if you have the right characteristics. (dark coarse hair and light skin). alternatively you can try shaving really closely and then using a foundation makeup with a red tint to cancel out the "blue" that comes from shaven facial hair.
and for your OP, i'm in the same boat as you kinda. i'm trans but not really in the binary. sometimes i like to pass as a girl, sometimes, as a boy. i take hormones so my body is a more physical representation of what i am, which is more of a tomboyish girl than completely girly, but i am definitely not a boy. if that makes sense...
>Take them for what they're worth: their effects. Not whether or not you are trans.
something i've been considering but its hard to walk around sporting a rack as a male
Hi, I'm new. I don't even know if this is the right place to ask, but here goes.I'm 20, overweight (just over 80kg), short at 165cm, with a "pretty" face although currently just beardy and dark brown hair almost down to my shoulders. In the last few years I've gotten into exploring myself I guess, and I've cone to terms with being bi for at least feminine traps/transgirls. I also live with a girlfriend-to-be-wife who doesn't know more than that I've toyed my butt a few times and that I'm bi.
Anyway, introductions aside, I've long been into the thought of trying to become a passable trap in a way - I still want to remain male and all, but I want to shape myself into as feminine as I could be. That's why I'm here.So 2014 I'm gonna start dieting and exercising. What are good things to go for? Assume that I have no idea - I just want to be able to crossdress/trap and whore myself in front of a mirror, or maybe even my girlfriend or a cam eventually. I guess I'm also a pervert.
But yeah. I sincerely apologize if I'm asking the wrong place, but you seem like a nice bunch. Thanks for your time.
Lurkerfaghere.Semi-passable here, I guess. I have the body and face to pass, but need more make-up tips.
Anyway, is there an essential guide, or website for tips? Make up, nails, speaking, walking, etc.
Also, while we're at it. I've been contemplating taking pharma to become more androgynous. I'm extremely comfortable as a man, I enjoy it, but I have the desire to be more feminine. Are there any HRT trap guides? Or can anyone suggest a slow regimen? I'm a closet trap, and have no intentions of coming out soon- but if it were a gradual change, over months, years, people would just... gradually notice- I wouldn't have to say anything, haha.
Please any all info on it.Does it work? Is it a scam? Any of you buy it?
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I don't think many people would have tried it. How much does it cost? What's the actual model #?
My girlfriend has one and it SEEMS to be working? I have no clue though
I decided to try this a few years ago. I'm not a trap in training or anything. Just a cis-gendered guy who doesn't grow a great deal of chest hair, and a clean shaven look suits me better. Using heat to burn the hairs, the No!No! claims this will shoot a quick zap of heat to the follicle and kill it. If nothing else, it claims it will reduce the thickness of the hair and regrowth time. After a few months of regular use with this, I gave up on it. I couldn't tell if a real difference was being made, and occasionally there was an annoying pain involved. The heat is conducted through a thin wire that runs close to the skin, but is supposed to be stopped by a barrier from touching you. Well, if you are cold due to removing your shirt as you use this, you'll get goosebumps and you may start running the wire into the raised bumps. You'll also experience some trouble getting around trouble spots, like your underarms, and the particular model in your op pic is not meant for use on the face. They have another version for that which I didn't try. It's also not intended for use in the pubic area, so forget about using it on pubic hair. That stuff is too strong for this device to work with, and those crevices are too hard to get to anyway.
In the end, I would suggest skipping this and going to a professional, or looking up other devices with user reviews on Amazon. You can also look at the user reviews on Amazon for the No!No! there, and you'll see many people are as unhappy with it as I am. Save your money for something more useful.
Check out this guy's review as well:
Hey guys, lurker here coming out to post for the first time!
I'm 22, 6" 1', 174 lbs, and planning on starting some DIY hormone treatments sometime soon.
Ideally, I'm shooting for general androgyny (not trans, just GQ) with some possible small (A cup) breast growth and/or bigger nipples. What would be an ideal way to start things off? Should I go with an low-dose estrogen/anti-androgen combo, or should I use just a low dosage of one or the other?
I'm seeing a lot of arguments for either of the above, and I'm having difficulty finding a definitive answer, both here and elsewhere.
I'm well aware of long-term effects (lowered libido, infertility) so I'm really only planning on using these for ~3-4 months, or at least until I achieve my goal.
Also, I've been trying to find a dosage chart to see what would be a good starting point (25mg, 50 mg, etc). Anyone know of any?
So, i measured myself today. While i'm still slimming down, I'm 37,33,39 (C,W,H). Is there anyway (asside moans) that i can make this ration better (mainly slimming my waiste while keeping fuller hips, i know i can't do anything really for the chest)?
I'm not transgender, but I would like to maintain a young and androgynous look because I make a shitty lumberjack type. I know that there are many many ways to mitigate things like facial hair, body hair, etc., but since I figure I've put way more dangerous drugs into my body, I'd ask about hormones.
I've got no interest in estrogen because I don't want tits, but as far as I know, antiandrogens wouldn't give me any, they'd just cancel out the testosterone that keeps the miniscule amount of estrogen produced by all males from giving me tits, and that would take such a long time to kick in that I'd definitely see it coming and stop popping pills.
Can anyone tell me the effects of antiandrogens on the male body without estrogen added? I know what they do combined but I'm not sure what effects come from which drugs. I'd like to know negative side effects too, I'm sure there are some but depending on severity and prioritization they might not be a big deal.
For the record, I'm 21 and skinny, maybe 140 pounds. No medical conditions.
Hello there :) sounds like you need an anti androgen and perhaps incorporate a small amount of estrogen here and there to help prevent bone loss. inhousepharm. does the trick. spirotone is super cheap and I don't think mentioning shaving/plucking/waxing is something worth mentioning. Use lotion! 2x a day all over your body.
Hi Tranchan and anon lurkers :))So I have been taking yada yada for yada yada and it's becoming too obvious that im not a boy. I love the change and I feel comfortable in my skin and regular clothes. In fact, the only time I actually wear male clothes/try to act male is when I'm at work, in public or college. I have to use a brown thingy to cover up my growing boobies, I look fem and unfortunately live from paycheck to paycheck and im so damn scared that i will loose my place, job and be labeled a freak since I live in a small city in fl near alabama. Advice and luv from anon is super kewl and I would love a trans E-buddy or something. ty tranchan <3
I've been wanting to transition for years now and the opportunity where I can begin self medding has finally come at 23 years old. I ordered spiro and estrofem from inhouse, and plan to start ASAP because I'm terribly worried that if I don't start soon I'll be an unpassable hon monster, which I'd rather die than be.
If I do receive a doctor's recommendation to start hrt I'll start shaving the proper way with real razors but for the time being, I'm looking for an electric razor to keep my body hair at bay.
I'm looking for something that would work well for both the private areas and arms and legs. Should I just get your run of the mill foil shaver for men or get one specifically made for women's legs and such?
no expert, but seeing as your hair is still male hair, i wouldn't use a girls razer. Male hair is typically thicker and more course, and a female razor won't cut it quite the same.
Hey everyone, I was wondering if I could get some advice
The situation as it stands:I love to cross dress and my girlfriend likes to fuck me with a strap on. But she says her enjoyment comes more from making me happy. This is great but I'm not sure if that's totally the case. Some times when she has dommed me, she's had this real fire to her. Its amazing. Its like she's totally into it and would rape me if she could. But afterwards she says its a feeling disconnected from her and says it takes too much work to get into that mood.
How do I get her to recognise the fire inside? How do you fire up your partner?
Also she, like everyone enjoys feeling sexy. She says she feels sexiest when she's dressed womanly. The problem is when I'm dressed womanly, she feels less special and like she's now less wanted. Like there's only room for one of each role in her show. I try to make her feel wanted but she doesn't have the best self esteem.
What should I do?
Be her friend. She sees you as a token. Doesn't want to admit it, but it's true. She's troubled by it. Wants to enjoy you as a girl, but is insecure and needs a token male to feel better about herself. Her enjoyment of topping makes her feel shitty because the world tells girls they should feel shitty all the time, especially for enjoying that. To be honest not much you can do. This is one of those things that change with age. When people look back and wonder why they took so long to just be themselves.
I've been on HRT for five years. My T levels have been as low as 130 and as high as 600 ng/l since then, and E's only been around 50-80. Even though I've had female development (tits, skin et al), I haven't had any genital atrophy at all. I've had enough of killing my liver and kidneys just to barely dent my levels, so I'm getting an orchi to end this bullshit once and for all.
I spent five years getting suboptimal results from maximum dosage HRT. Did I fuck myself up permanently, or does the fact that I have tits mean that I'm not totally screwed?
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Since you have lot of questions and i have 30 mins at my disposal i am going to answer all.
>how are T levels irrelevant on blockers?
This is a common presumption with most girls, they hope low T levels means the hormone blockers are working well. The truth is a bit complicated. The normal idea is to have a low T but usually FSH and LH levels being low is a good indicator that your body is producing T in lower rates and vice versa, your blood report may indicate a low T but a high FSH and LH implies that your T level is going to shoot up real fast. So mention T level alone is a M00t point. Secondly, SHBG levels also indicate how much of free testosterone and estrogen are available. Normally with high estrogen you will see a rise in SHBG levels. The levels of SHBG will tell you how much of androgens in your body is free and how much is bound.
> How do I know that it's doing its job, aside from these tits?
well spiro is complicated to handle but you have to take a blood report and check for the other 3 levels i mentioned. remember T level alone is unimportant check for the ratio of T to SHBG, this is usually a good indicator.
Hey, thanks for answering my Q's. I'll talk to my doctor and ask if they can look for those on my next labs.
Also, I bit the bullet and just scheduled a consultation for an orchi. I'm past the point of trying to deal with it, and hopefully GRS is in my (probably distant) future, so shit. Not like I'm gonna use these for anything, am I?
Oh yeah, and while I'm here, I've also been told my voice needs work. I have a voice clip of me talking here, do they have a point or am I okay? (It's of me taunting my cat while he's eating.)
Does anyone know a way of growing breasts that won't actually biologically change you into a woman? I really want breasts but don't want to loose having my own kids
I think the only way then would be surgury. Any hormones that would cause breast growth also run the risk of making you sterile. You could have your sperm frozen before going on hormones, that's the other option.
So, here it goes. I've been strait all my life. The last few years though I've really started to like shemales. To the point that its the only type of porn that turns me on anymore. My fantasy is to be fucked by a shemale. I've used toys but never had the real thing. Just wondering what percentage of shemales are into fucking guys. Is it common or do most shemales prefer to receive.
ignoring political correctness and i-art-trannier-than-thou arguments here is the brute essence. Most CDs and TVs will happily bang you. If you want a functional transgirl with real breast and all, then the she may or maynot top depending on hormones. In my personal experience most top girls are only into women and very few will top men most of them time. Additionally, the rate of functional girl who would top is lower compared to the amount of men who would like to be topped. So you have a huge competition there. if getting banged by functional girl is all that you need, then i suggest a visit to the escort.
What about his same problem in reverse?
Alright.. Having never used a board such as this hopefully this doesn't implode..I'm a 26y/o male, grew up in a religious village, straight as an arrow, yadda yadda.. Moving out 6 years ago has been changing me quite a bit -- skip to current arrangement.. Consider myself bi/pansexual -- have never been with a guy, but.. yeah.. Currently have a girlfriend who considered herself a lesbian before me -- but we just work <3 One factor may be that I have never been masculine outside of the factors beyond my control; voice, hair, etc., etc. We've been together a year and our relationship has brought us into my crossdressing and using makeup at home (mainly just to cover facial hair, lip color, and eye liner). So far I haven't been brave enough to actually take this into the public but lately I've been feeling that I should be making little pushes.. Now, I don't associate as a woman or anything, but I have always wanted to have more fem features.. not sure if that's just andro or what but I have also been looking into growing breasts lately.. I don't want to take this too terribly far as I don't want to fully transition but I do want to be able to come across as fem.. If I ever did go through with this I would want to be able to bind myself.. and she's the only one seeing me naked so I don't need super notable curves for public viewing.. Sorry if this seems jumpy by the by.. just typing as facts relay in my head.. On the note of not wanting a full transition.. I've been looking at vitamins and whatnot -- came across a site that seems legit but also low budget.. testaments are good but I just don't know..Really glad I stumbled upon this board.. seems as though a lot of you are more than willing to share thoughts and ideas so I figured I'd give this a go.. In the back of my head I'm torn if this is right -- wanting to change myself but at the same time hide it at times.. be the me I want to be in my personal life but hide myself professionally..
so you want to take the androgyny route. The here you go.
As for andro path, i suggest hanging out with the rave/goth groups in your locale, most andros can be seen in those communities and maybe you pic tips.
So... Here goes I guess.I am a bigger guy (280 right now) and I have recently accepted that I am transgender and want to transition. I am working hard to lose weight. I have lost around 90 pounds since last september. I am not done losing weight, I plan to lose at least 100 more pounds(Ideally 150-170). My question to you is: If I start taking medication now while I'm losing weight will my breasts and butt stay the size they are now? I have decent size manboobs and was hoping that they would stay the same size while I am losing weight. My butt is bigger but isn't particularly toned so I need to start focusing on it soon.Picture not related, best one i could find for now.
loosing weight while taken supplementary estrogen is difficult though not unheard off.
Your breast will grow but only around the nipple parts and as for butt. well it's a common knowledge most estrogen develops bigger butt than bigger breast.
How fast do hormones work? Like would i be able to take them for a small amount of time to change my fat distribution a bit more feminine without developing noticeable boobs so that I could pass either way if i wanted to?
well if androgyny is you aim, then don't take blockers, or take low amount for initial 3 months and stop.
whoremoans, work differently for different people. for some facial feminisation is apparent while for some breast growth begins sooner. One cannot really say which takes precedence, smooth skin, facial feminisation or breast growth. the order various for everyone.
Finally if fat redistribution is your main aim, I am sure this has been discussed before, go to the lower end of you BMI, then take estrogen for a while gain weight and then do severe diet and training to loose the weight. cheers.
Do you know any place on the Internet or (which is more propable) on Darknet where I can find typical crossdressing books in PDF version? I mean, tips on some sites are useful and YT is helping too, but sometimes I like to get a complete source in one piece. ;)
Pic related, everyone on any crossdressing pages is recommending Charlie Anders' [i]The Lazy Crossdresser[/i] but I can't track it down in digital version. Amazon isn't a solution, I don't live in country civilized enough to make them send me a copy here. ;)
So, thanks in advance a lot!